macklemore: “don’t shit on other people just because they’re of a different race or because of their sexuality.”
the world: “hey, lets shit on macklemore because he’s straight and white; therefore he shouldn’t be spreading a good message because he’s already privileged.”
(First photo courtesy of this post on the Addition Elle Facebook page. Second photo is me feeling very cute.)
I wrote the following as two comments to the above post on Facebook. The comments were getting ridiculous. All these women, outraged that another woman, who is a size 12, is daring to call herself “plus-sized” - and why? How does that hurt the rest of us?
In the fashion industry (as in, the world of actual modelling, not the world of buying clothes to wear every day) size 12+ is plus-size. If she’s a size 12, she’s plus-size in the fashion industry.
In the real world, of course, size 12 is a solid “Large” and this woman can probably buy clothes in any store without having to worry about them not fitting (except that possibly pants will be too short). In the world of buying clothes to wear every day, size 14+ is plus-size.
At my 16-18 (depending on the style) I am the equivalent of an XL-XXL (depending on the style). It’s becoming more common to find such sizes in regular clothing stores, but the really trendy ones still don’t have them. That’s why I shop at ADDITION ELLE,Penningtons, and Reitman’s. Different things fit me better at different stores, but I am guaranteed to find things that I love at these stores, and I can mix and match separates as they all go well with each other.
Here’s another bit of reality, folks.
I am 5’9” tall. Most models are taller than I am. When I was a size 14, I weighed about 180 lbs. In high school, when I weighed 20 lbs less, I was a size 12. I will never be smaller than a size 12; I have a large frame, and that’s how it is. Yet when I was first a size 16 (I’ve been up to a size 20 in the past) I went into a plus-size store and was snottily told by a clerk “You know this is a plus-size store, right?” (It wasn’t a store I shop at regularly and not one I will ever shop at again because of that as well as because the style just isn’t “me” anyway.)
I currently weigh about 220 lbs, give or take depending on the day. I have weighed as much as 255 lbs. EVERY SINGLE TIME I TELL SOMEONE HOW MUCH I ACTUALLY WEIGH, THEY ARE SURPRISED. They always think I weigh less than I actually do, because as a tall person with both long legs and a long waist (ask me how much fun it is finding longer tops to minimize my hips and pants that actually reach past my ankles), not to mention a pseudo hourglass shape, I DON’T LOOK LIKE I WEIGH AS MUCH AS I DO. But I promise you that I have to wear size 16-18 or XL-XXL clothing. If nothing else, as a 38G bra size I HAVE to buy underwear at plus-size stores, because they’re the most reasonably-priced and prettiest to boot.
YOU CANNOT TELL BY LOOKING AT A PERSON HOW MUCH THEY WEIGH OR WHAT SIZE CLOTHING THEY WEAR. Yes, I would love it if there were more variety in models’ bodies. But even so, I’m better represented by current plus-size models as my body type is closer to the type used most by Addition Elle et al. What needs to happen is that the plus-size model industry needs to start using more variety in their models’ body shapes. I know plenty of people who would appreciate seeing themselves in the pages of the catalogs.
But in the meantime, can we PLEASE stop trying to decide who is and is not “plus-size” simply by virtue of what they look like? It’s ridiculous!
Some common logical fallacies! Very interesting, and good at not making you sound dumb…
anytime a guy says “that’s what she said” always reply with “not to you”
Whoa this deserve a reblog
don’t insult your kids, it’s damaging and ruins their self esteem
don’t insult your kids, it’s damaging and ruins their self esteem
don’t insult your kids, it’s damaging and ruins their self esteem and makes you a shitty person
The posts that pop up during finals week are the best kinds of posts
No more excuses.
I will forever reblog this
It’s sort of horrifying that we all know what they’re talking about without them really saying it.. that it’s become that much of a norm in our society that we just know.
Sometimes I’m confused by Canadian stereotypes but then I realize that we literally dump maple syrup onto the snow, wait for it to get gooey and then scoop it up with a stick and eat it
you better not be fucking with me canada is this for real
it is all too real
I’ve been told it makes toffee or something though, doesn’t it?
like not even in a witty way
if you actually feel guilty for eating reasonable amounts of food and even unreasonable amounts of food at times (heaven knows i sometimes do haha) you don’t need feminism you need to seek help
Feminism isn’t going to cure your eating disorder.
and eating disorders aren’t linked to your gender! yeah, women are more likely to have them because of chemicals and hormones and other sciencey things i don’t understand, but men can have them to and personally i don’t care what chromosomes you have, if you have a serious mental illness, for the love of God, SEEK HELP
psych grad currently working in mental health here, i just want to say that you’re all wrong and express my disappointment in your ignorance
first off, the person in the picture is not saying ‘i need feminism because i have an eating disorder’, she’s saying she associates eating with feelings of guilt and god knows many women, including myself, can relate. this feeling of guilt ALONE is in no way indicative of a mental disorder so you should feel silly for making that assumption in the first place. such guilt, however, IS for the most part the result of living in a society that values and forces on women an unattainable standard of thinness, and shames women for displaying pretty much any kind of appetite whether it’s for food or sex or money or power
second, many psychological disorders are ABSOLUTELY influenced by society, culture and environment. genetics and biological factors do play a vital part in causing EDs, yes, but it is a VERY WIDELY ACCEPTED FACT in both the academic and professional community that sociocultural and environmental factors also play a significant role in causing EDs.
don’t believe me? maybe you’ll believe the American Psychological Association, the world’s largest and most esteem association of psychologists. (x)
or maybe you’ll believe this study that found that 38 months after their first exposure to western media (the same media that currently overexposes us to portrayals of idealized thinness) in the late 90’s, Fijian women (whose culture originally appreciated larger bodies) experienced a sharp rise in disordered eating (x)(x).
now, no one is saying that feminism can cure eating disorders, that’s a ridiculous notion, but it certainly attempts to dismantle the systems that contribute to high rates of EDs in women
and finally, let’s be real here, the person who made that edit and most of the people who are reblogging this and agreeing absolutely don’t give a damn about this girl’s wellbeing and mental health, they’re just looking for any excuse to shit on feminism. so fuck all you assholes and your faux caring bullshit :)